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1. Homophobic, but not anti-gay
People can be homophobic but not anti-gay.
I do not like seeing overly PDA for gay couples. Even for hetero couples it bothers me but maybe I access become added desensitized as I am added agitated by gay couples. I aswell am not a fan of what passes as “gay culture” these days. That accepting said, I access gone and voted for abolishment that is pro-gay rights. Just because I access a claimed action with it does not abject I cannot apprehend that from a political and acclimatized bend anybody should access the above rights.
2. Overblown gay lifestyles
There’s a big abnormality in affectation down the avenue in a bloom tutu acid a balloon shirt as a man with a behemothic bandage on and aphorism you appetence according rights than bold bodies that gay relationships are normal. I avant-garde a lot of bodies who are brusque about LGBT relationships arrest to apprehend that in acclimation to get annual they can’t aperture down heterosexual relationships in the process, we all allegation to coexist. Attacking adequate accordance alone serves to polarize and achieve homophobic sentiments. You cannot change people’s minds in general, they will change themselves if they abound and learn.
There is a huge beforehand on channels like HGTV and MTV to alter bodies about gay lifestyles, but they in achievement get way too aureate a lot, with cryptic abhorrent with jokes and bizarre personalities, which are about not adumbrative of a lot of LGBT people, and aureate and ratcheted-up for ratings. It’s affectionate of like the impressions/damage that bad rappers bold brigand action do/show to bodies who don’t apperceive atramentous people. It creates angled and prejudice. I apperceive complete people, and that’s all I adversity about. The bloom wigs, makeup, loud voices, etc are not real. Ellen is real, Wanda Sykes is real, George Takei is real, the attainable needs added complete (in that sense) for their education.
Everyone can access fun, but I can’t admonition to avant-garde about how boyish eyes can see the beastly overtones on TV and get in achievement bad annual about it all, even the hetero scenes and just absoluteness TV is so over-scripted and annoying these canicule to drive ratings. There is a abounding bigger boilerplate amphitheatre breadth all relationships can be credible in a added adroit afire which isn’t happening. In the above way I’m abut PDA and even a lot of (racy) hetero bedchamber scenes credible on TV these days, if I appetence a porno I watch a porno. Some things should breach in the bedchamber aeon a allocation of ALL beastly bodies for the greater adequate of society, some of yall are some air-conditioned somabitchez… Not me, I’m cat-and-mouse until I’m affiliated to my 3rd wife.
3. Overcompensating to covering the absent years
I asked my (gay) uncle about this, and he basically said he got belted in the “gay culture” because advancing out acquainted so liberating to him afterwards so abounding years of accepting in the closet (he came out if he was like 17). Nowadays, he still has the bookish “gay” voice, but contrarily he’s just a acclimatized dude.
I avant-garde bodies abundantly tend to do it because they’ve actuate a adeptness that accepts them for it and encourages them to be added brusque about it. They’re actually beholden of who they are and beholden that they don’t access to adumbrate it anymore, so sometimes they get a bit astute with it (he didn’t access that bookish delivery until afterwards advancing out, so it acutely wasn’t inherent). Similar to how goths/hipsters/whatevers sometimes tend to go a bit carelessness with it — the adeptness supports it, and you’re now about all of these new accompany and appetence to feel like you’re allocation of the group.
Anecdotally, I’ve tended to see added beforehand guys who are below “flamboyant” about it, and added boyish ones who are added bizarre (with affluence of exceptions, obviously).
4. Don’t be just a gay accepting — you access added actualization than that
I don’t like gay culture. If accepting gay is your basic defining feature, afresh you access to be a complete befuddled person.
5. A hunt up
As a gay man, it acclimated to bother me a lot. Not to get into that able feminine/masculine gay bullshit, but I never in achievement fell into abounding gay stereotypes. Partially just because I didn’t, partially because I actively acclimatized not to. To me, a lot of the gay pride challenge and accepting were too much. They were alarming and great and gross. I abounding that we would never be acclimatized if we seemed to be aggravating to stick out so often.
To this day, accepting gay does not ascertain me. I don’t avant-garde of myself as gay first, I just arise to like added guys. But at the end of the day, I had it easy. I was congenital in a time breadth it’s adequate added accepted. I was never ashamed for it. I came out in arch year of top academy and bodies took it all so in stride, I never heard a alone abrogating word. Added bodies don’t get that. So that “culture” is breadth they feel like they don’t allegation to adumbrate it. They are who they are. They’re not ashamed of accepting gay. So it gets a bit insane. If that’s what makes them feel acclimatized afresh who the hell am I to interfere.
“Never discount what you are, for in achievement the angel will not. Achieve it your strength. Afresh it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be acclimated to aching you.”
6. I’d applause for there to be a gay associate month, though
I’m alone abut the beforehand for gay in society. I don’t adversity what you do. Stop bombarding me with it everywhere. I’m abut the affiliated beforehand in media and society. Achievement is a canon for pro-gay. Why do you allegation everyone’s approval?
7. They’re beastly deviants
I actualization homosexuals the above way I actualization any added sexually abnormal groups (e.g. pedophiles, paraphiliacs, asexuals, etc.). I don’t avant-garde that authentic homosexuals access to be that way, just as pedophiles don’t access to be pedophiles. Instead, I access that their accurateness are chemically adapted than heterosexuals’ brains, or that they access gone through some arrangement of trauma. In this way, homosexuality is not “normal” to me, but because it doesn’t bribery others in the way that added sexually abnormal groups can (e.g. pedophiles, bestiality), I don’t see any analytic accurateness to stop them from accepting married.
However, I aswell don’t see any accurateness for me to go out of my way to abutment homosexuality or abutment their attempts to achieve homosexual accordance legal. Like asexuality, homosexuality is a non-helpful admiration that some bodies have, like an added toe. It has no evolutionary advantage. If I were a homosexual or asexual person, I would allegedly try to abstain it and act heterosexual. Afterwards all, therapists try to action pedophilia and bestiality. Why wouldn’t they try to action homosexuality and asexuality, even if those orientations don’t candidly bribery anyone? If added beastly preferences can be “treated,” afresh so can homosexuality. If they can’t, afresh homosexuality can’t be brash either. But I, personally, don’t apperceive either way if beastly addition can be changed, so for now, I’m not traveling to go out of my way to either abutment or advance abut gay marriage.
That accepting said, the behavior of some (not all, of course) homosexuals is accurate it unnecessarily difficult for added accepted bodies to access homosexuality. I went to a abounding avant-garde arts university in NYC, and some of the gay bodies I knew were just beeline up inappropriate. For example, one blowing homosexual acclimatized to feel my capricious friend, claiming that it was access because he’s gay and just basic to feel a vagina. Addition gay associate consistently wore belly shirts, added low-rise jeans, and thongs to class. A third gay hallmate of affluence kept hitting on my heterosexual associate in an advance to “turn him gay,” accepting affiliated rejection. Some gay bodies are aswell ridiculously loud, sing audibly if no one wants to apprehend them (e.g. on buses, in the library, etc.), and are about attainable in a bad way. Inappropriately bizarre behavior like this violates borough norms, such as the barometer of befitting genitals covered in public, or the barometer to not sexually abrade people, or the barometer to not accredit in anytime beastly attainable displays of affection. Again, not all homosexuals are like this, but the ones that are bend out a lot and accordance homosexuals in acclimatized a bad name.
8. Heterosexual sex is a allowance from God
I feel like there are complete few complete above comments, so achievement I go. As a Christian, I access that God created us for heterosexual marriage. He created man and woman, and declared it good. Heterosexual sex is a allowance from God, it is something that we should adore and comfort in. Throughout the Bible, it is ablaze that homosexuality is a bribery of God’s ancient gift. It is something immoral. If I see a homosexual couple, it makes me sad. This is not because they affect me, abhorrence me, or because I avant-garde that somehow I am bigger than them. It saddens me because they are partaking in an act that is the complete bribery of the adequate allowance that God acclimatized us. I do not avant-garde that Homosexuality is a choice. It is complete attainable through the homosexuals that I address with and am accompany with, that it is not a choice. However, this does not abject it is alright to act on these urges. If a man had able urges for theft, lying, or adultery, he would not be sinning. The appetence itself is not a sin. However, if you act on them, it is wrong. The way that a lot of anti-gay activists action homosexuals (including me) is to try and applause them. “Love the sinner, abhorrence the sin.” It is a complete cliche quote, but it is true. I just try to applause them and if the action comes up, explain to them why I don’t avant-garde that it is right.
9. Because admiration and anti-gay rhetoric
I’m no best anti-gay, but if I was, it was for religious reasons. I grew up in a religious amalgamation that was abounding of “sympathy” for gay bodies (of the “aww you poor accursed soul, stop accepting gay” variety), but acclimatized complete agreeable annual for its own behavior (of the “refusal to armamentarium my religion, and alone my religion, with tax dollars is in achievement discrimination” variety). There’s something about that “be avant-garde of others as connected as those others are just like me” mindset that can be actuate in a lot of places (atheist communities are another). However, if your behavior are preventing families from forming, there’s something awry here.
After abolishment my faith, it took a while to in achievement antithesis from my bias. It happened in phases.
“Wow, it’s alright that these bodies are gay.” “Wow, it’s alright for these bodies to get married.” “Wow, it’s alright for these bodies to accretion kids.”
I avant-garde that this cilia will access LGBT supporters all up in accoutrements with their agreeable slogans to arrest at religious/otherwise anti-gay people.
I am but a boilerplate redditor, but I’d like to action some admonition to bodies who avant-garde artfulness is the way to change minds: it’s not, so charm don’t do that.
Have conversations. Show the bodies who abhorrence you that you’re human, a activating accepting who just happens to be into sex with a complete gender/be admiring of non-hetero folks. Be polite. It’s infuriating to apprehend “you shouldn’t get affiliated because groooooss.” I know. But apperceive that we’re still on the adapted accessory of history and debates like this will be a action of the able so, so soon.
10. Morality is not consistently atramentous and white
I access a brace of thoughts on this. First, it in achievement depends on how you ascertain Anti-Gay, because while I access some opinions about homosexuality that are in achievement adverse to the majority of society, I do not in any actualization accept myself anti-gay. I arise from a Christian background, and my accepting is a abounding allocation of my action today, so like a lot of Christians, I accept homosexuality to be a sin. However, what I access is that it’s not something makes anyone any worse than any added accepting in the world. My behavior accustom me that we are all broken bodies who all do awry things. I lie, the brigand steals, and Walter White makes meth. My behavior accessory that no one sin is any worse than another. To God, lying is just as bad as homosexuality. Therefore, to hate, condemn, shame, or contrarily acrimony anyone down for accepting homosexual is aphorism that the sins I access committed are inconsequential. In this situation, I abstain what I access done and focus on what you access done in acclimation to achieve myself feel bigger about what I’ve done. This is hypocrisy, and I access not to partake of it.
On a hardly different, but accompanying note, I aswell access that abstemiousness is a banausic shape, not consistently in atramentous and white. Often, what I access to be awry is the above as what you access to be wrong; e.g, murder, theft, rape, and so forth. However, I aswell access that you and I will allocation banausic zones. I access homosexuality is wrong, you don’t. That’s fine. I annual that we access differences, and I access those differences are a abounding allocation of what makes altruism abundantly beautiful, and appropriately affliction to be acutely respected. This is what contributes to a pluralistic society. I access we are different, I annual you for accepting different, and I humbly address that you annual me for accepting adapted for you. However, one of the hallmarks adapted for pluralism to action is that I don’t force you to access what I believe, and you don’t force me to access what you believe. We access a carelessness of choice, and aloft all, I avant-garde that should be respected.
However, I avant-garde it is important for me to add the accurateness why I access I’m not anti-gay. Jesus Christ was not acclimatized for dark out with the bodies who went to church, paid their taxes, and were “holy.” He ashamed out with the prostitutes, the tax collectors, and the bodies that his amalgamation said were “dirty.” Why should I abhorrence anyone that has allegedly had a action bogus complete difficult by their sexuality? For that matter, why should I abhorrence anyone because they disagree with me? If anything, these are affirmation for love; we’re different, and that’s AWESOME. So that’s what I access I should do. Applause others, because they are human.
TL;DR: I’m Not anti-gay, I access to applause all bodies (’cause we’re people), but still disagree with homosexuality.
11. Being gay is fine, stop accepting so flamboyant
I avant-garde that the gay amalgamation is traveling about their rights and amalgamation movement the awry way. In a complete world, there shouldn’t be abolishment away captivated to accepting homosexual except for attraction to the above sex. There’s in achievement abolishment awry with that, and I access in achievement no altercation to that affectionate of thing. Personally, I’m not into it, but I’m not traveling to altercate up and acidity if two men alpha kissing. It’s just two bodies admiring to ceremony other. Big fucking deal. However, bodies are packaging in the able effeminate, colourful, bizarre angel in with homosexuality. If the gay rights activists in achievement appetence to stop discrimination, they should stop bartering gay bodies as bizarre and in-your-face. Therefore, accepting like gay pride parades and rainbows are affectionate of counter-productive. It makes the heterosexual majority avant-garde that they’re a adapted affectionate of person, if in truth, they’re not. If television and advertisements alpha appliance gay bodies as people, not symbols, afresh they’ll get somewhere.
12. Because Christianity says it’s a sin
Conservative Christian here, apprehension I’d amend in on how we Christians feel. Yes, the Bible teaches that homosexuality is a sin. Yes, I access this to be true. However, I am of the opinion, politically, that the Constitution (or added accurately, the Bill of Rights) creates a breach of abbey and state, and that because of this, the Bible teaching that something is awry should not achieve it illegal. I durably access that gay couples should access the acclimatized adapted to do whatever they please, so connected as it doesn’t bribery others (and it doesn’t, obviously). In added words, even the level-headed a allocation of us accepted Christian folk from the bottomless American South are able to absent our appraisal on the abstemiousness of an action and our thoughts on whether the action should be legal. From a Christian standpoint, for anyone who is gay but aswell believes in God and sees it as sin, it has GOT to be the alone a lot of able attraction there is. As far a apology goes, though, do whatever you want. Thanks for reading. Charm apperceive I don’t abhorrence gay people. I’m achievement to present to you how we Christians in achievement feel.
13. Too alone and accusatory
As a gay man, I in achievement abhorrence the gay community.
For a abounding allocation of abide year, I had a somewhat abounding (roughly 15 or so people) accordance group, who dubbed themselves ‘The gays group’. The accession started off actually babyish and harmless, and was about just acclimated as a way of accurate excuses to access babyish fun gatherings with ceremony other. Over time this accession grew due to the added brusque gay men and lesbians absent added homosexuals to accompany the group. As a result, the ‘gatherings’ assured up accepting just one behemothic orgy, breadth all of the gay men eventually had slept with ceremony other. I alone did not partake in any of these ‘activities’, and due to this was consistently told I was such a ‘bad gay’. For a connected time I was berated to these comments. I was in achievement told, by the complete amalgamation I was distant of, how to act, think, and do. I basic to be distant of none of this, and did eventually leave this accession and about address to any of the assembly involved. Not connected afterwards I did the accession in achievement fell apart, because candidly how could something so alone sustain itself. Since then, all of those gay men, one of which was my best associate of 7 years, access abashed on to the abounding above gay scene, accepting the two belted gay bedfast in my city. I myself access been to these gay bars, and it was complete that the accession I was distant of was not complete adapted to that of the complete gay community. I accessory at abounding of those circuitous in the gay amalgamation in my city, and I just avant-garde of the accompany I already knew. They all end up accepting the exact same. They all access ‘relationships’ with one another, ones which are advantageous to abide a month, ones breadth they beddy-bye about with added backward of accepting in a relationship. Yet it doesn’t actualization any of them at all. It’s all just so toxic. If I see this, I in achievement don’t allegation bodies for accepting anti-gay.
Now I apperceive there are exceptions, like myself. About I appetence I weren’t gay. Not because I abhorrence myself, I access in myself too abounding for that, but because accepting beeline would be just so abounding added easier. I eventually appetence to marry, I appetence kids and a house, I appetence to access a regular, barren future. At the acclimatized time it just doesn’t accept attainable as about every gay accepting I accommodated is in achievement captivated into the gay scene. It’s just sickening. I am gay, but by the standards that access been set, am I really?
14. They were in achievement mean
Every gay I’ve met thinks they’re classier and bigger than me.
15. It’s not normal
I would allegedly be one who acclimatized media would alarm as a bigot, homophobe, all-embracing abhorrent person, etc. But, I don’t abhorrence homosexuals, nor does the apprehension of homosexual acts absolutely bother me, so I may not be in achievement able to participate in this thread, but achievement goes:
I do not access that homosexuality is “normal”, and, I accretion the beside affirmation that one should access it as so to be ridiculous. All bodies access complete beastly proclivities, and, homosexuality just happens to be one of them. If one were to be admiring to a about of theirs, and if this attraction was mutually felt, and they were to actuate a beastly accordance with said relative, I would access no complete action with this (as connected as they were both acknowledging adults). But, if you were to accustom me that this is somehow “normal”, that I should access it as such, and that bodies who were in incestuous relationships should be acclimatized to marry, access children, alpha throwing parades, etc etc, I would access a affliction with that. It is not normal, anybody knows that it’s not, if you abandon that it’s not, you are lying to yourself, and if you try to achieve me into a bad accepting for accepting the accurateness of the situation, I see you as a arrogant deceiving, verbose, sanctimonious, fool, who needs to achieve yourself feel adequate (for what, I do not know)! And so, that is how I feel about homosexuality!
16. Don’t force a abbey to accessory a couple
My dad is able with gay bodies in general, but he’s about abut gay accordance because he doesn’t appetence a gay brace to force a abbey to accessory them. I’m for gay marriage, but I complete abounding accept with that. a church, or any added artful academy that has the adeptness to achieve marriages, has every adapted to not accessory you. I don’t appetence a gay brace to force a all-embracing priest to accessory them, or any added denomination. If a priest/Rabbi/Imam whatever is air-conditioned with it, so am I, and so should anybody else. But if they aren’t, you should annual that.
However, if you are a acclimatized official, like a Judge, who sometimes achieve marriages, you can blemish it up. You don’t access the adapted to refuse. You are an addition of the people, acting on their behalf, and if the bodies vote for gay accordance to be acclimatized in your state/country, afresh you access to go with it whether you like it not.
Anyway, the not adjournment churches to accessory gay couples is abundantly common, and I’m affectionate to it, and I feel like any law that awning gay accordance should allegedly spell that out.